Teacher Pay Scale Across Canada

"I still easily log 10 hours on work days and at least another 4 or 5 during the weekends, and I don't get to claim any over-time for them."

Makes you sound almost like a fellow engineering student!

"teachers aren't paid for the summer break, we pay for it"
"it is a low paying profession"

What a serious disconnect with reality! Good God, the Toronto elementary teacher contract will be paying $94,000 by 2012. With benefits, security, time off and pension what other professions are better? Dentists, doctors, lawyers perhaps...certainly not mine (software developer). Mind you, I was listening to a doctor complain the other day about how her profession was underpaid....

Well put... I agree on all accounts!

Can you please let me know where you're teaching, how many years of education you have? Thanks.

That's awesome!

Is it a private school? How can I get a job at your school?

Hi there.
I have been looking up for info about how to become a QC teacher, since that has been on my mind ever since I lived in Montreal for a short amount of time back in 2003. I'm an ESl and EFl and Modern Languages Teacher, who hold a BEd from an european teacher's college and a Masters in TESOL from a well-known american university. I taught in Ireland, England, in the States until I went back to my home country Portugal. I have to say that this was a really stupid move. Although the move was for family reasons, I should have had stayed put. I taught in the States while I was taking my Masters in TESOL at the University's language Centre and got some ESL-related jobs at the same time. After my MA I got certified for Maryland and passed all tests and interviews and became a public school teacher in MD. At the same time I taught an ESL course for pre-beginners at a local community college every Saturday morning. As a first year teacher (2002) I was making 41k a year plus getting comfortable money from the comm. college. When all this happens like this, you end thinking that it might be a little like this everywhere. I know, too young, too dumb. When I decided to go back to my home country I thought that three years away wouldn't make a difference and that, with my qualifications and experience I would get a teaching job at a state school, where pay is higher. Big mistake. In Portugal they don't care how good you are, how well qualified you are or what kind of experience you've got. You're just a number in a lottery contest and that's how you get a placement in a public school. And since they hold teachers for over 35 years at their jobs, it's too hard to get in and when you finally get a yearly contract, this doesn mean you'll get one the following year and you'll be living out of 15k after taxes for as well as 15 years if you're lucky. You're never guaranteed a place within the Ministry. They save thousands of euros this way. And before you say life is cheap here, hold on your horses. I have the excat same expenses now (2010) than I had in the States back in 2002. Yes food out is extremely good and cheap but the rest is outrageous and with a mere 1100 per month you don't go far.
This is why I can't accept that, after teaching for 11 years and being more qualified than my own Minister of Education (although she's a well-known writer here) and way more qualified than my own PM I still don't make ends meat and nobody appreciated you here, since you're may not even be in the same school year after year and you never know until a day before September contracts begin if you're going to have a job that year.
Sad, but true. Salaries are low everyhwere. Extremely underpaid in most countries for what teachers work. Yes, if we do feel underappreciated we do have the right to complain.
Cheers and hope to meet some of you in Montreal one day.

Hi Everyone,

My sister would like to complete a bachelors degree in Physical and Health Education and follow it up with a masters. Her goal is to work as a CEGEP level teacher here in Montreal. I found this site very useful as we were researching on how much money she could potentially make. If anyone could help me out I would appreciate it. What is the starting off salary and where would she potentially cap off?

Thanks,

Anything will be helpful :)

As you can imagine I was also shocked. The margins are just ridiculous!

To be a teacher in Toronto you need to have a bachelor of education (B.Ed) from a school that offers a teacher education program recognized by the Ontario Ministry of Education. Before you complete your B.Ed you generally need to already have a 4 year degree. It really depends on whether you want to teach at the elementary, middle school or high school level. To teach at the intermediate level (4-10), you need to have one 'teachable' subject as determined by classes taken in your undergraduate degree. For the senior level (7-12), you need to have two teachables. For elementary you do not need to have a teachable, however some schools require that you have taken classes that cover a wide range of subjects. It is very competitive to get in and therefore you also generally need to have experience working with kids, volunteering etc. You are not able to work in a classroom in Ontario without your B.Ed. Good luck getting a job in Toronto, there are virtually no positions available. Also, salary depends on education and how many years you have been with the Board. Hope this helps!

Whose fault is it that you have an under par job.

R you serious? While I don't like it when other teachers whine about their salaries, in this instance the difference is very unfair. If you're looking for pity don't insult people with legitimate concerns, otherwise no one will be concerned with you.

It's too bad that "anonymous" is personally stuck in a low-paying job, but that isn't really a relevant reason why teachers should be paid so much less in Quebec than in other parts of the country.

As for telling teachers who feel under-appreciated to go back to Alberta, the issues facing Quebec teachers affect all teachers in the province, even those who grew up here and are lucky enough to be "culturally appropriate".

However, there are a few reasons why I can understand that teaching salaries (including the higher taxes) are lower here in Quebec: the public services offered are in fact quite a bit more extensive than in Alberta. Bogusia named daycare, but in reality, there is much more. Just off the top of my head: Montreal has a much more advanced public transit system than either Edmonton or Calgary; Quebec subsidises post-secondary education to much greater extent than Alberta; Quebec has a publicly funded prescription drug plan that Alberta does not.

In addition, Alberta is the recipient of billions of dollars yearly in oil royalties. However, a counter-point to this is that Quebec and Ontario benefited for decades from being the industrial centre of the country and reaped the corresponding financial rewards in the form of corporate taxes and federal spending.

To me, all of this means that the issue is much more complicated than simply after-tax salaries or who is "culturally appropriate" to live in Quebec. In the end, I still think that Quebec teachers are underpaid relative to their counterparts in the rest of the country.

You are right - the salary doesn't take into account all the costs of living, although in Canada, apart from the housing market, the cost of food and other goods is pretty comparable. This is why it is hard to compare different countries, but within Canada I think it is reasonable to compare just pure salaries.

However there's a few points which I would like to point to from your comment. I am working in a private school and there is no pension provided (in Quebec). The public sector and other private schools do give pensions, but I'm just showing you that if you decide to get into teaching, it might be hard to get a job with a pension.

On top of that, everybody thinks that Quebec has really great services for the taxes that we pay here. Well it's true that child care is great (we pay $7/day here), but I think that's it. I can't think of another absolutely beneficial (in terms of money saving) service that we have here compared to Alberta (the other side of the spectrum in terms of taxes). In fact because of the higher taxes - on our home, on our salaries, on the gas, on everything you buy etc, - I feel like I pay way more here for the cost of living.

I once did a comparison of how much I would make here in Montreal vs. Calgary, assuming I was working full time here, full time there, having three children in daycare here vs. there (in Calgary daycare is more like $30 - $40 / day), owing a house here compared to there, etc., and it turned out that I still would be ahead of the game in Calgary.

I love Quebec, don't get me wrong, but I really don't know where all the taxes are going to? Probably to pay off the debt / deficit - but not to the services everybody says we have.

On the off-chance that this thread has not yet died, I thought I would add an international perspective. It's only the story of a single person - me - I am a teacher in Australia. I am who I am because I had an education dotted with extraordinary teachers (including my own parents and family).

Australia compares similarly in terms of wages and conditions for teachers and other professions, though I think Canada is a tick ahead on the money front for teachers in most areas. In fact the way I came across this blog was in searching for info because I am coming across on a teaching exchange for 12 months and my husband will need to find a job - teaching. The attitude to teachers is strikingly similar - though we have seen this tide slowly turning in the last few years. We can only hope it continues to turn until we see the professional valued and respected as it should be.

I have a Bachelor of Mechanical Engineering and Computing (double degree) and a Bachelor of Technology in Industrial Design. I also have an MBA, earned in my first 5 years working as a design engineer. I worked for almost 10 years in private industry, for two different internationally renowned companies and would probably be considered a "high flyer". I worked hard, I didn't waste company time, I was astute, I invested myself in the company's business wholly and I played the game. For this I was paid well.

However, I decided to opt out and get a teaching qualification. Ultimately, making profit was not meaningful for me, writing reports, giving presentations and playing the politically charged corporate game was empty and quite simply - was not making a positive difference to this world in any way. What a waste of my energies I figured. Success is what you define it as for yourself I suppose. Many saw me as a success but I didn't feel it for myself.

I knew what I was going to be in for as a teacher. My parents are teachers. My in laws are teachers. I was NEVER EVER going to be one...I knew how hard they worked and how undervalued they typically were! When I eventually made my decision it obviously wasn't for the lucrative pay and conditions - it was for ulturistic reasons. It is a decision I will never regret.

I took a year without pay to get my qualification to teach (a graduate diploma K-12). I have now been a teacher for 5 years. I have a passion for teaching far beyond what I ever felt as an Engineer or Designer. For me, and I imagine most teachers, this is an amazing and diverse profession that is challenging and rewarding. It is exhausting and exhilerating. It is heartbreaking and heartwarming. It is a real rollercoaster ride. But one thing is for sure - a vast majority of teachers are in the job for the RIGHT reasons. They want to make a positive difference. They care. They are clever. They are the sort of people you want to trust the education of the next generation to.

I know I make a difference in the lives of children. I know I am doing the very best I can to provide the very best for each and every student. I know I am not perfect and that I still have a lot to learn - but don't we all, no matter our profession? Teachers grow along with their students. This job is such a priviledge.

I won't whinge about the wages... do others really whinge - or do they merely DEFEND this noble profession? Compare with other professions, looking for equity? When attacked and denigrated it is only natural to defend one's livlihood - one's passion. People should be wary of mistaking this for whinging. We do hear some whinging about teachers whinging for sure.

Importantly, people should be wary of mistaking the statement of facts (anecdotal or statistical) as whinging.

If people are stating that it is "not fair" then perhaps people could be sitting up and listening? They would hear the cry of people who feel undervalued. Who continue to do a great job but who perhaps crave the recognition of doing something incredibly difficult and doing it well. It is only human nature to want some basic recogition for a job well done. Instead, they are often served critiscm instead.

Is it so hard to be thankful? If you are reading this then chances are you had some great teachers in your life to guide you. If you have success in your life, if you learned to be a good person, gained skills, were challenged to think and problem solve then perhaps they had some influence in that? Please stop throwing sand in their faces. Thank them. Value them.

The simple truth is I now work much harder for much less as a teacher. I am in a position to directly compare corporate effort and wages to that of teaching. Walk a mile in my shoes...as many teachers have invited. I have walked many miles and I can unequivically state that teachers do get a tough deal in many places. That said, I wouldn't change it for anything.

Luckily I am motivated by more than money and status - as most teachers are, thank goodness. Perhaps that is actually a good pre-requiste to have when you consider the fact that we (teachers) transfer culture...

It is also true that some teachers work harder than others, but it's obvious that most work much harder than the general wider society expect, though there are a growing number of people who DO understand what teachers actually do with their time and energy.

For me it's 10 months of work in school (that's 4 weeks off in total, split between 4 holiday periods). Minimum of an 8 hour day for me (always there by 8 at the latest, leaving after 5, working through lunch 4 out of 5 days). For those with any responsibility position there are extra meetings such as school council, education committe, leadership etc. These often don't finish till 8:30 or 9 pm. Those are loooong days to be sure! Extra-curricula activities (weekend sports teams, competitions, camps, excursions) that go well beyond the typical school day. Luckily they all only happen every other week. I am up at 6:30am and I am rarely in bed before 11:30 (we don't do any work until the kids are in bed). Not a whinge mind you, just how it is (fact).

Courses or conferences that we (must) go on - we usually pay for the travel, often do the travel in our own time and don't get accomodation paid for either. No company car. No expense account. No plush hotels. The cost of the conference is often the only thing covered, if approved. Can you imagine paying for your own hotels, travel etc in other professions? I know I never had to as an Engineer! I have now applied to do a teaching exchange in Canada for 12 months to broaden my experience as an educator, to add some international perspective. For this we will pay all travel and relocation costs for our family of 4 (around $7000 plus the cost of a new car once we arrive). We will cop the difference in exchange rates between our currencies (approx. 10% loss for us). I will not earn a cent more than I currently do. I will work just as hard as I currently do. The person replacing me here will do the same...and we do it because we think it makes a difference to how effective we will be as teachers. Not a whinge, just how it is.

I always wondered why teachers didn't get "danger money" for school camps. Large groups of students (teens 8o) for whom you are responsible for 24 hours a day for the extent of the camp - usually 3 - 5 days, sometimes more (I recently did one trip of 2 weeks with a group of 14-17 year olds, 1 week of school time, 1 week of our holiday time). With no extra pay or time off in-lieu. That's an extra 280 hours by conservative standards, over and above. It's a wonder school camps still run really. The goodness in the hearts of teachers goes a long, long way. They do it for the kids. Not a whinge, just some perspective.

Oh, and others have obviously mentioned the correction, planning and preparation (which is actually what makes a fantastic teacher so fantastic) which is a minimum of 2 hours every night (except when I have those late meetings, those nights I am brain dead by the time I get home). Sometimes we do use textbooks (and some teachers more than others) but most good teachers use it nly as one of a plethora of resources (like computers, interactive whiteboards, manipulatives etc). Good teachers keep learning, keep challemging themselves to do better, to find a different way to teach something, to reach each and every student. A bit of work on weekends as well, not every weekend for me as I try and spend most of it with my young kids. Then there is the good, comprehensive and personal reports that take approximately 1.5 hour per student to write (we recently did a study of this at our school for planning purposes). Most teachers have a few students...some up to 100.

I went back to the bottom of the payscale initially. Even now I don't earn what I did when I was part time (3 days when returning to work after having a child). My credentials and skills as a manager have helped me a secure senior/leading teacher position (rare for a graduate) but this still has me at much less than half what I previously earned. I manage the Middle Years (5-9) curriculum and transition and I am the Year 7 co-ordinator. I also teach a Year 12 Physics class, a Year 12 Maths class, a Year 9 maths class and a Year 7 integrated learning class. I run our extensive Snowsports program and lead/mentor the Student Forum (and the Student Forum Teacher Leader). I am responsible for the Performance and Development of a group of 5 staff (all Expert teachers (15+ years experience)- interesting as I am only a graduate LOL). I write, implement and monitor individual learning plans for 26 students. I coach other teachers. I have implmented several programs in my own school (Restorative Practice, Gifted and Talented program etc). I work around 60 hours a week and one advantage is certainly that it allows me the flexibility to be with my children more than a corporate 60 hour week (and for that I suppose I would pay a premium). I am not ashamed to say I currently do all this for under $60k. This is not a whinge, just reality. I don't regret it for a second.

Teaching is not for everyone obviously. I doubt many would argue that it is a vital profession, that the education of the next generation isn't one of the most important jobs in any country. We educate the future's child. We affect the future of individuals and society as a whole. Whether you like it or not we are a vital link in the fabric of civilised society as it is currently structured. If you want to denigrate our profession so be it, we will continue to do the best we can with what we've got. But, imagine the difference *you* could make if you actually valued and supported what we do.

Of course I would happily do this job for what it's worth, equivalent work for equivalent pay...conservative estimates put it at $150-180k in the western world. I would be delighted with performance based pay - I know I would be a top earner because I put in the effort (as do most teachers by the way). Truth is societies simply can't afford to pay us what we are actually worth. So, if you are not going to pay us what we are actually worth then the least you can do is support us, value what we do and give thanks where it is warranted. Forgive us for defending the profession we are passionate about, forgive us for wanting things to be fairer for all. In a predominantly self-centred, capitalist society we are not doing this for money or status. We are just doing the best we can with what we've got because we know that we need to make a difference and we care enough to sacrifice some of ourselves for that. Someone has to look after our future after all.

This is not a whinge, it is just the facts as I know them.

Where on earth does a teacher get 6 months off in the year? I would love to know so I can teach there! Teaching is a high stressful profession. You can't count PD days b/c don't you have to attend meetings or take some more training? Its funny how everyone is critical of a teacher but has no problem that any of our deputy ministers make around $264 000 a year for basically doing nothing with an expense account. Parents can't wait to get rid of their own flesh and blood after the summer and cherish the moment their kid goes back to school. Why is this? Its your own child, if you can't handle them how am I suppose to? What about the other 26 children I have to worry about? During that 10 months i will spend more time with that child than the kids parents. Its funny how parents can't stand their kids and give them video games or anything else to shut them up. Why? B/c when it is 5, they are done work and want to relax but a teacher is still working at night and on the weekends. I also have to watch myself b/c I am a role model and I can't just go wild on the weekends. Its funny how a parent will plan for their child's birthday party and then go crazy b/c of the amount of kids running around, the planning involved and the energy spent for a couple of hours. Well that is teaching 5 days a week, 10 months of the year and from 8 to 4 (if you are lucky) every single day. If you wanted to be a teacher, maybe you should have become one instead of getting your MBA and finding you have no purpose in life. You want to know how much I make? I make a difference, how much do you make?

Teachers only work 6 months a year? That is news to me Bay Street Boy. Obviously where you went to school they did hence you did not get your proper education. The fact is that teachers are in front of the class 10 months a year. Summers and holidays are spent planning and revising for next year. My work day is 8-4 and then with 2 more hours of planning and marking a night.
I love how the public can make a comment regarding teachingt and not know a thing about it. Their only reference point is when they went to school 30 years ago.
Times and students are different and they job and the social make up of our society is diverse and challenging. This is my 23rd year is in the class and the professional is more challenging than ever.

I don't know where you went to school, but teachers here on the East Coast work 10 months a year, with lesson plans that WE make up ourselves, often with no guides, direction, and in many rural area schools, not even any textbooks. Then, we're expected (and most of us do) devote those precious few "free" hours of our evening and weekend lives to extra-curricular teaching and travelling that we don't get paid for at all. Teaching is not a cushion job, nor is it for the faint of heart. It is a virtually 24/7 thankless job, with bottom-dweller reputations AND pay.

Lastly, if you think we're getting such a great deal, why aren't you a teacher? No one's stopping you.

I am a new teacher which means I have been teaching for less than 10 years and I have a Master's degree. I work for several different CEGEPs and I don't clear $30,000 a year. I am not sure what planet you are living on, but teachers here in Montreal are struggling. With a Master's degree and a job, I don't know why I should have to struggle so much. Teachers work 8 months out of the year, and as a new teacher I work 8+ hours a day seven days a week when I can get work that is.

I'm pretty late to this game, but I just discovered this page.

I find it funny that the critics here are using BS numbers to justify their criticism. On what planet do teachers only work 6 mos a year and make 70k? Nowhere. Kids are only out of school for two months, finishing at the end of June, and returning at the end of August/beginning of Sept, depending on the province. They may get an additional two weeks at Christmas, but are usually back at work before the students.

I know for a fact that teachers don't get the full two months off - they, as others have stated, have to organize their materials, clean the classroom, sit in meetings with administration about where to place their students in the coming year, do professional development, and then start preparing for the incoming class. So basically they probably get maybe one month off over the Summer, which is about on par with equal-paying jobs in the private sector).

In addition, if they're doing their jobs properly, they're supposed to be attending conferences, reading, upgrading their qualifications and all those other things that professionals are supposed to do to remain current.

Nevermind the extracurriculars, chaperoning, monitoring and tutoring that happens during the year.

No one can guarantee that they're actually doing what they're supposed to be, but they're paid with the assumption that they are.

I think that the hours they do, with all that included, should be pretty close to a full time job.

Also keep in mind that this chart was for a teacher with 6 years of education, plus experience. The average teacher makes 30k - 45k to start, depending on their education. Most Master's level jobs start at 60k in the public sector. There are entry level positions with a lot of private companies that require NO education that pay 30k-40k to start. The idea that someone should accept making 45k with an MEd and 8 years of experience is crazy.

Like any job, increased responsibility comes with increased pay. A teacher has to babysit large classes of increasingly badly behaved kids, deal with increasing behavioural issues, developmental delays, and generally do a lot of extra work to cover where the parents are failing.

The job also comes with a great deal of social responsibility to ensure that kids are actually learning and developing normally. 30k-45k to do that is nothing. they should be paid more.

General Practitioners do about the same work and get paid about 5 times as much to do it (no nonsense about life saving, please, they deal with the same 10 scenarios all day every day and none of it involves saving lives).

All that is moot though, the question addressed here is not how much is being paid, but why there's such a substantial difference between Quebec and every other province. The answer is easy - Quebec's economic problems lead to agreements with unions to slow wage increases in the 90s.

The situation for teachers in QC is far from ideal, but QCs economic situation for many years was far from ideal. It should be noted that the provincial government has been taking steps recently to improve wages and benefits for civil servents, which includes teachers.

What do MBAs do for 100 hrs per week? They make pie charts and powerpoints and reports. I know because I am an MBA. What is the responsibility level of your average MBA? Not much: Usually it's making sure the numbers from page two add up to the number on page one.

Teachers have heavy responsibility, and we should pay for that responsibility. They are, or should, be responsible for the outcome of the children of society. By paying them so little we also say that we expect little from them. And when we expect little, we get little.

We have whiny teachers because they are rendered powerless by the administrators. All they can do is whine. They are given a herd of undisciplined kids and told, without many resources, to cram a curriculum into their brains so they can pass some test. They don't have much say in what they can teach, nor how they can teach it. Their wages are set by someone far away and merit is unrewarded.

Teachers should be worth more than a mere MBA chart-maker, and they should be held accountable for results. If all they do is read the textbook and babysit then they are paid what they are worth now; but then where is our future going?

i must admit that i have to agree with the bay street boy. most, not all, of the teachers that i know whine about how tough a job they have. and i would agree that over time it has gotten tougher due to the polical correctness of society. challenges have increased with regards to discipline. and maybe the "fun" has decreased over time. however, those teacher friends of mine that are being truly honest, and there are a few, will readily concede that life is pretty good. not many jobs exist where after 10 years you can be making $60-80,000 for an incomplete years worth of work. indeed, you can spend your summers upgrading so that you can make even more money. all on the public's dime. the pension is gold-plated and the benefits are reasonable. the curriculum is spelled out; the daily planners are given to you; you don't even need to know your subject -- the notes are given to you. the marking scheme is predetermined; the report card comments are from canned programs. cut 'n' paste. and you have to set up and clean your own room before and after the school term? c'est domage. a downturn in the economy? ..... do you have any conception of what that means and how it affects the average joe?? no you don't because even if you suck as a teacher we can't get rid of you. you continue to collect your pay and have your extravagant hollidays. so, don't be complaining because no-one, other than your fellow narcissists, feels sorry for you. -- JOE

WOW! I can not believe that there are still ignorant people such as yourself Bay Street Boy. I challenge you to spend a day in the classroom and then get back to me. We only work 6 months? It's actually more like 10 months. Do you think that classrooms magically clean themselves at the end of June? NO! That takes time. And who do you think sets them up and plans for the entire year all of August? That's right, teachers do. PS: teachers don't make that much until they work about 8-10 years. most start at $30,000 less. If you think all we do is teach kids to say their ABC's and count their 123's then you are certainly living in your own imaginary world. You do realize that we need to follow something called the CURRICULUM right? Did you learn just your ABC's and 123's in school... it seems like it. And lesson plans? Yeah, we do teach from lesson plans, that WE WRITE OURSELVES! They don't just write themselves, they take alot of time and planning. Amazing teachers spend hours planning lessons to engage students and keep them interested in their learning. They also write up something called report cards. I'd like to see you write one. We may get more like ONE month off a year, but it is well deserved. Going into teaching we also only get holidays at the peak times, we can just take vacation whenever we want, Something that we sacrifice when we sign up. As for you, do your research about the timeand effort it takes to be a teacher and then come talk to me. I would like to meet your teachers, because if that's all you think they did in your education then they were obviously not doing your job. You probably were just sitting in the back, not paying attention.

Dear Bay Street Boy,

I am a young man who is presently working on his undergraduate degree and his B.Ed. in Nova Scotia.

Clearly, sir, you have no idea what you're talking about. Have you ever taken a teaching program yourself? Have you ever accompanied a teacher inside and outside the classroom to see how much work is actually involved in the profession?

As far as making "$75k for 6 months" as you say, there are few teachers who make such a salary. In fact, $65 000 per year is more realistic. Do the research.

You say that we teach ABCs and count to ten. If that's all you learned in school or if all you think that is being taught, you have a very poor vision of education. Education is about molding and developping the minds of children and adolescents, the minds that will lead us in the future. Are you aware that teachers offer such courses as biology, physics, calculus, accounting, French language, law?

You then say that we should get a real degree. What does that even mean? Are you proposing that we all run out and get our MBAs like you?

You also say that we teach from lesson plans and books. I wasn't aware of this and neither are my university professors. Imagine our surprise because all these years, we have been preparing our own lesson plans each night, one different lesson plan for each class that we teach (which can be up to five classes, by the way). You must therefore provide me with more details as to where I can obtain these magnificent resources!

Sir, the purpose of my comment is not to complain about teachers' salaries. As a matter of fact, I'd like to tell you that I agree with you, "[teachers] are well paid for what [they] do". Instead, I want to show you (and whomever else decides to read this discussion) that your comment is not credible in any way. As you have a MBA, you should understand the importance of checking your facts and you have not done so. Everything that I have said is verifiable and supported by official documents available on the Internet.

I welcome and look forward to comments.

Brandon

What is really sad is that you are an adult man, ... oh I take that back "Bay street boy," that is home dissing teachers at 6:40 on a Saturday night!

There is no moral to your story just teenage angst!

Thanks for your comment. I'm actually surprised that I didn't get your type of comment before.

First I want to defend myself. I'm not comparing salaries of Stock Brokers to Teachers, or Lawyers to Teachers. I am only comparing salaries of teachers from one part of the country to another part. It doesn't make sense for a teacher doing the exact same thing in one part of the country getting paid half the salary in the other part of the country (keeping all other things equal, such as living expenses), especially if these salaries are mandated, and not negotiated by individuals, as in the private sector.

Anyway, the other part of your comment bad mouths teachers in general. I realize that there is that sentiment among a lot of people. I might have been one of those people before I became a teacher. I agree to a certain extent that teachers are whiners and sometimes we don't know how good we have it, but please believe me that teaching isn't all that easy. Convincing you about that would be pointless, however. Only becoming a teacher would probably change your mind (as it did in my case).

Thanks for your comment, and I know you're not alone in your thinking.

I gave the link in the post, but here is the more specific link: https://www.mbteach.org/cbs/agreements/2008/winni_08

I assumed I was class 6 though (6 years of education. 2 degrees).